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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that your paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. and because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. >> many republicans are willing to just let it all burn to the ground. politico reported more and morehouse republicans are planning to damage the economy. gop officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless president obama agrees to dramatic cuts. he has repeatedly sai
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such...
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that, and, you know, we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are. we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed, and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie collins. yeah. >> i would like to ask you now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's longstanding. another more recent. the long-standing one seems to have become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult, if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if there's some things like paying our bills should not be out of bounds. i'll take one last question. >> mr. president, i would like to ask you, now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's long-standing, another more recent. the long-standing one seems to become a truism of sorts, that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been...
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ironically, it added to the deficit. it should not be surprising given all this talk that the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they overwhelmingly want us to create more jobs. let's finish this debate. the certainty that our economy and reputation are still second to none. america has a lot to do. we have to boost the wages of those who have -- we have to give our children the best education possible and we have to do everything we can to protect them from gun violence. let me say i am grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and for his proposals which i will be reviewing today and i will address the next few days. i intend to vigorously pursue. with that, i will take some questions and i will start with julie of a piece and i want to congratulate julie for this new and important job. >> i wanted to ask about gun violence. today marks the one-month anniversary of the shooting in newtown which seem to push the assault weapon ban.
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>> at the end of the day, when we deal with this sequester, we deal with deficit reduction, it has to be in a balanced way. we have always said we are willing to support spending cuts. we put our money where our mouth is with the debt ceiling last summer. many of us on the democratic side voted for $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and got a debt ceiling increase. president obama made it very clear we are not negotiating over the debt ceiling again because we have to pay our bills. we have to give certainty to our economy and we have to focus on deficit reduction in a balanced way so we can protect the middle class and working families. >> doesn't this give the progressive movement an opportunity in the next 90 days to really send the message to congress, leave the big three alone? get your money somewhere else? it would seem to me that the republicans are going to go after that in the next 90 days, make the case that the entitlements are really the problem in all of this. this campaign is going to continue on. >> it will, absolutely, continue on. i think we have to acknowledge that medi
>> at the end of the day, when we deal with this sequester, we deal with deficit reduction, it has to be in a balanced way. we have always said we are willing to support spending cuts. we put our money where our mouth is with the debt ceiling last summer. many of us on the democratic side voted for $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and got a debt ceiling increase. president obama made it very clear we are not negotiating over the debt ceiling again because we have to pay our bills. we have...
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fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first. then i want to ask a question. >> as climate change threatens the world we leave to our children and good u.s. jobs move overseas, time in the senate ticks by. it keeps ticking by with no results. because the system is broken. but we can fix it. and make the senate work for us again. >> people are stunned when they find out it was not majority vote. that one senator can just stop the process. is it your hope and the hope of cwa that when you do ads like this that the public will put pressure on their senators to reform this and just make it fai
fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first....
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the president may not want to cut spending as part of the upcoming debt limit debate but it shows deficit reduction measures have increased and are about as standard in washington as a cherry blossom festival. i'm sure that you agree that? >> absolutely. i agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. that is why we need to have this discussion now. it is all the more appropriate for the president to be telling us we can't make any demands accompanying his request for yet another debt ceiling height. gerri: how did you react to the presence tone in that last press conference when he talked about his upcoming debt ceiling despite? he seemed a little angrier you guys. >> yes, he did. he seemed annoyed at the fact that he had to deal with a coequal branch of government. a group of pesky individuals elected by the people. >> yes, that's right. we have the audacity to insist that we follow the law and that we continue to make the law and yes, we have our work cut out for us. >> i was noticing that since 1990, we have raised the debt ceiling 18 times. back in 1990 come the first time we raised it,
the president may not want to cut spending as part of the upcoming debt limit debate but it shows deficit reduction measures have increased and are about as standard in washington as a cherry blossom festival. i'm sure that you agree that? >> absolutely. i agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. that is why we need to have this discussion now. it is all the more appropriate for the president to be telling us we can't make any demands accompanying his request for yet another debt...
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the deficit. so it shouldn't be surprising, given all this talk, that the american people think washington is hurting, rather than helping, the country at the moment. they see their representatives consumed with partisan brinksmanship over paying our bills, while they overwhelmingly want us to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate. let's give our businesses and the world the certainty that our economy and our reputation are still second to none. we pay our bills. we handle our business. and then we can move on -- because america has a lot to do. we've got to create more jobs. ofve got to boost the wages those who have work. we've got to reach for energy independence. we've got to reform our immigration system. we've got to give our children the best education possible, and we've got to do everything we can to protect them from the horrors of gun violence. and let me say i'm grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and fo
the deficit. so it shouldn't be surprising, given all this talk, that the american people think washington is hurting, rather than helping, the country at the moment. they see their representatives consumed with partisan brinksmanship over paying our bills, while they overwhelmingly want us to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate. let's give our businesses and the world the certainty that our economy and our reputation are still second to none. we pay...
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term agenda we would have talked about immigration, talked about the economy, spending, budget defic deficits, never would have mentioned guns. a reminder how quickly something gets forced onto the agenda whether you like it or not. >> because events drive the presidency. presidents don't drive events. look, i think we can look into our crystal ball today and talk about immigration reform or gun control or perhaps some kind of a fiscal grand bargain, but there are, as donald rumsfeld famously put it, the unknown unknowns out there that will shape the next four years. we don't have to go too far back into history for comparison. george w. bush takes the oath in 2001, his priorities were tax cut and education reform. that was dominating the agenda and the summer of the shark, all the shark attacks in the summer of '01. >> gary condit. >> and gary condit. the world changes and bush's presidency certainly changed on 9/11. >> his biggest speech before that was on stem cell research. >> yep. >> that was his first -- >> biggest month, that's right. august. >> stick around. we'll talk about the obama
term agenda we would have talked about immigration, talked about the economy, spending, budget defic deficits, never would have mentioned guns. a reminder how quickly something gets forced onto the agenda whether you like it or not. >> because events drive the presidency. presidents don't drive events. look, i think we can look into our crystal ball today and talk about immigration reform or gun control or perhaps some kind of a fiscal grand bargain, but there are, as donald rumsfeld...
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if they're so into cutting the deficit and they think spend issing the problem, show it off. let's see what you got. they don't want to do it. >> what i don't understand about this is why if you believe that ultimately they're going to have to cave, why don't we just let them cave? why do we need to create all of these other sort of -- as i said wack-a-do arrangements so this can happen? >> it's all leverage, right? if the sequester, that deal is not great for the republicans or that battle is not great for them because that disproportionately hurts republican industries, which is to say the defense industry, which is not to say that there aren't plenty of democrats whose bread is not being buttered by defense contractors, but if you look down at the breakdown of sequester cuts, defense gets hit with $55 billion in cuts, but they are much more severe, and as dave wood from the huffington post has said, it's like taking a meat clever to the defense industry. the nondefense cuts, 55 billion, same amount, but social security, retirement, veterans medicaid, snap, food stamps and
if they're so into cutting the deficit and they think spend issing the problem, show it off. let's see what you got. they don't want to do it. >> what i don't understand about this is why if you believe that ultimately they're going to have to cave, why don't we just let them cave? why do we need to create all of these other sort of -- as i said wack-a-do arrangements so this can happen? >> it's all leverage, right? if the sequester, that deal is not great for the republicans or...
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the deficit. there has probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie colmes. >> mr. president. >> yeah. >> i like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of critsims. one longstanding, another more recent. the longstanding one seems to become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are too insular. that you don't socialize enough. and the second, more recent criticism that your team taking shape knit diverse, isn't as diverse as it could be or even was in terms of getting additional voices, gender, race, ethnic diversity. i would like you to address both of those. >> let me take the second one first. you know, i'm very proud in the first four years we had as di
the deficit. there has probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie colmes. >> mr. president. >> yeah. >> i like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second,...
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that is the deficit. you take the sum total of those annual deficits and enter oast on them and that creates the national debt which right now is about 16.4 and change trillion dollars. now, the u.s. treasury is empowered to borrow money to make up the shortfall between revenue and expenses, the deficit. but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the bills that are already incurred by your democratically elected congress. now that we've hit the debt limit, exceeded it a little bit, the treasury has two options. they can fiddle around with $200 billion the way you would if you're a little short on your monthly bills, paying some now, refinancing a little bit. that would get us through mid-february to early march. once that stops working the treasury needs to rely on the cash it has on hand and the revenue that comes in each day from taxes. problem is there isn't alw
that is the deficit. you take the sum total of those annual deficits and enter oast on them and that creates the national debt which right now is about 16.4 and change trillion dollars. now, the u.s. treasury is empowered to borrow money to make up the shortfall between revenue and expenses, the deficit. but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the...
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if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. america, after all, has always been a grand experiment in compromise. >> one thing i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy could be catastrophic. the last time they threatened this course of action our entire economy suffered for it. >> all right. the trajectory of the perspective of compromise. >> that's entertaining but i think a i have a little bit of minority opinion. some of it is a bit overstated. in you're preamble setting this up. to assume that when the president was delivering that speech in 2009, that he did not understand just how difficult the road ahead would be and just how much recess substance he would get from the other party. i think, understates the sophistication that this man has about pol
if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. america, after all, has always been a grand experiment in compromise. >> one thing i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy...
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it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it should be about that. we're going to discuss it later in the show. the idea about why we don't have budgets, how we can fix that. senator, thanks for the time to talk to us, we hope we can talk to you more in coming weeks. >> have a great day. >> senator johnson is a republican from wisconsin. he is on the senate budget committee. the fiscal cliff nan senonsense fiscal cliff and the exploding debt. how did we get here? >> we haven't had one in almost four years. >> i could end the deficit in five minutes. >> how? >> you pass a law that says that an
it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it...
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the deficit. is that really the objective? the concern is we are spending more than we take in. that is the case, there is a way of balancing that so that we take in more money, increasing revenue, and we reduce spending. there is a recipe for getting that done. in the conversation i had was speaker boehner by the end of the year, we became pretty close, a few hundred dollars -- a few hundred billion separating us. it seems as though what is motivating this from the house republicans is more than debt reduction. they have a vision about what government should and should not do. they are suspicious about government policy commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care as they grow older. they have suspicions about social security. they have suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat or whether we should be spending money on medical research. they have a particular view about what government should do and should be. that deal was
the deficit. is that really the objective? the concern is we are spending more than we take in. that is the case, there is a way of balancing that so that we take in more money, increasing revenue, and we reduce spending. there is a recipe for getting that done. in the conversation i had was speaker boehner by the end of the year, we became pretty close, a few hundred dollars -- a few hundred billion separating us. it seems as though what is motivating this from the house republicans is more...
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bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually have coherent plans for anything they're suggesting. they have sort of hand waving spending cuts, entitlement reform without really writing down a specific path to get there. >> incredible. david corn and jared bernstein, gentlemen, thank you so much. stay with us. we'll be right back. what do we want to build next ? that's the question. every day. when you have the most advanced tools, you want to make something with them. something that helps. helps safeguard our shores. helps someone see through a wall of fire. helps those nowhere near the right doctor stand a chance. ... feeling in the extremities ? no. techno
bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually...
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taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more cooperative, working environment. to you, sir, what does the republican party need to do to try to get some things done? >> i have to differ with the preface, john. >> i thought you might. >> barack obama -- look, this notion that partisanship has taken over. it began when barack obama became president. i was chairman of the financial service committee of 2007 in the bush administration and i worked very closely with hank paulson, secretary of the treasury. we worked on putting fannie mae and freddie mac to stop the lawsuits. george bush went to harry reid
taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more...
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guest: we have had some deficit reduction. as the president laid out a couple days ago, we have had over $2 trillion. we had 1.5 trillion that came from previous actions. and then we added just a few days ago some further deficit reductions through some increased taxes on the very wealthy of this country. so we have already begun to undertake a deficit-reduction. to use that as a reason to use the debt ceiling as a weapon is really playing with fire. they say pay some bills and not pay others. we have never tried that before. host: is it feasible? guest: i don't think so. which bills? social security? veterans? people out fighting for this country? which bills you pay? we never tried that. i think the president put it so well. this is not a dead beat nation, really. i think common sense is likely to prevail within the republican ranks. i know firsthand, second-hand, but much of the leadership within the house republican caucus, some of them realize the potential consequences. host: if president obama won on the fiscal cliff de
guest: we have had some deficit reduction. as the president laid out a couple days ago, we have had over $2 trillion. we had 1.5 trillion that came from previous actions. and then we added just a few days ago some further deficit reductions through some increased taxes on the very wealthy of this country. so we have already begun to undertake a deficit-reduction. to use that as a reason to use the debt ceiling as a weapon is really playing with fire. they say pay some bills and not pay others....
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the deficit. so it should not be surprising, given all the talk, the it the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they see their representatives concerned over paying the bills while they overwhelmingly want to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate and give it businesses and the world the certainty our economy and reputation are still second to none of. we pay our bills. we handle our business, and then we can move on, because america has a lot to do. we have to create more jobs, boost the wages of those that have worked and reached for energy independence, reformed immigration system. we have to give our children the best education possible and do everything we can to protect them from the horrors of gun violence. i am grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and for his proposals, which i will review later today and address in the next few days and intend to vigorous
the deficit. so it should not be surprising, given all the talk, the it the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they see their representatives concerned over paying the bills while they overwhelmingly want to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate and give it businesses and the world the certainty our economy and reputation are still second to none of. we pay our bills. we handle our business, and...
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we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit area but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [cheers] [applause] we remember the lessons of our past. twilight years were spent in poverty and parents of a child with a disability have nowhere to turn. we do not believe that in this country that freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us, at any time, they may face a job loss or sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things strengthen us. [cheers] [applause] they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. [cheers] [applause] we, the people, still believe that our obligations as americans are not just to ourselves, but to all prosperity we will respond to the thre
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there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so far, we've actually had $2.4 trillion over a ten-year period of deficit reduction. but about 30% of it has come from rev lienue increases and at the other 70% from come from spending cuts. entirely from discretionary programs. >> what's the budget control act? >> it's what came out of the last debt ceiling debacle when the republicans and the democrats agreed on this trillion dollars of roughly discretionary -- all discretionary spending reductions. but the point is, none of this really touches entitlements. none of it touches the mandatory. and its $2.4 trillion. >> wh
there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so...
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so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he has a plan that mr. bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt
so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he...
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not when it comes to our nation's finances, but this trust deficit in washington. the republicans, you have the president, doing this, boom, and just how is this even going to play out over the next couple of weeks? >> well, you have the debt ceiling, which is the current fight. and what you have is confrontation, not conversation. how is it going to play out? again, the president believes he has the political high ground now and he believes he's -- he believes his position is right. that you don't want to negotiate over the debt ceiling, let's have a bigger conversation. the republicans, they control the house of representatives, they still have a decent chunk of votes, the democrats control the senate, they say no way, sir. and so you have this fight over the debt ceiling, but it is about bigger issues. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with immigration reform, nothing to do with the proposals on gun control, nothing to do with anything else the president might want to do in his second term, but guess what, it does affect the climate in washington. and the fact
not when it comes to our nation's finances, but this trust deficit in washington. the republicans, you have the president, doing this, boom, and just how is this even going to play out over the next couple of weeks? >> well, you have the debt ceiling, which is the current fight. and what you have is confrontation, not conversation. how is it going to play out? again, the president believes he has the political high ground now and he believes he's -- he believes his position is right. that...
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done, we know what a balanced approach would take. we've already done probably more than half of what we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult. if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind, and if we recognize that there is some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. i'm going to take one last question. jackie. >> i'd like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms, one that's longstanding, another more recent. the longstanding one seems to become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the seco
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done, we know what a balanced approach would take. we've already done probably more than half of what we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in...
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deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he struck back room deals with hospitals, with special interests, and now he's saying republicans are being reckless? no, no. at some point it becomes more reckless to continue raising the debt ceiling without having democrats come forward with a budget, by the president of the united states, coming forward with a plan to save medicare, medicaid, and social security. we had erskine bowles on. he was very clear. steve ratner agrees. zeke emanuel agrees. democrats, good democrats, agree. that medicare and medic
deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he...
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republicans have taken a pledge, saying they will never raise a dollar in taxes no matter what the budget deficit looks like. he is not why they decided to put the whole u.s. economy at risk if they don't get their way on spending cuts. he is not why the white house partnered with gun legislation, no matter how small, is tantamount to taking away guns, he is not why extreme movements like extreme ideas like going back to a gold standard in the middle of an economic crisis have taken root on the right. this country needs and deserves a better republican party. and there are a lot of people in the republican right now who want a better republican party who are trying to push it there. those people, i think include key leaders in the party, like the house republican leaders this week who are trying to talk their members down from the ledge. they include folks like david brooks who in saying that republicans look deeply unreasonable, they are telling republicans you are being unreasonable. you need to move to the center. the structure of their argument a bit weird, but they're pushing in the right di
republicans have taken a pledge, saying they will never raise a dollar in taxes no matter what the budget deficit looks like. he is not why they decided to put the whole u.s. economy at risk if they don't get their way on spending cuts. he is not why the white house partnered with gun legislation, no matter how small, is tantamount to taking away guns, he is not why extreme movements like extreme ideas like going back to a gold standard in the middle of an economic crisis have taken root on the...
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i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the phone, and he said what would it take? and i said a serious discussion about entitlements, further cuts, and i'll only be your last vote because there had only been two -- in the house as you know, a tie vote goes down. >> sure. >> so i said i'd only be your 218th vote and there had been two votes i knew like this in history. one for the impeachment of andrew johnson and the other one for the draft. >> so -- >> and i said -- and they needed me. but i represented the most -- >> the president needed you, correct? >> correct. >> and the president right now needs dem
i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the...
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. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and it's not a reduction in baseline, it's a reduction in the rate of growth of spending, which is again suffocating to the private economy and unsustainable over the course of the next several years. >> megyn: one thing we did hear the president reference personally, we heard it from nancy pelosi prior, but the president personally talking about now closing more loopholes and that means higher taxes. we don't know on who, but he would not specify any specific spending reductions and refusing to negotiate with the house republicans on the issue of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking for
. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and...
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. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an assault weapon ban. >> everybody is totally upset by it. >> what makes sense? what works? >> this is a moment to act. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child, we should take that step. >> the lecturer in chief returns to the east room of the white house today to explain something to congressional republicans that previous presidents have not had to explain to congress. >> i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more s
. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an...
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you were talking about debt and deficit and government spending 15, 20 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it in washington, but now they really are. here is a chance for you to take all you learned, what you learned on the way up, on the way down, in congress, in the governorship, and apply it to what is really the debate of our times. if you look, we're having a new fiscal crisis it seems every couple months. we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of the iceberg that is coming our way based on unbelievable demographics and unbelievably unsustainable government spending. what i want to do is take what i learned and hopefully apply it to again a great conundrum that now exists in washington, which is how do we get our financial house in order? >> i wish you all the very best. thank you for joining me again tonight. it's a pleasure to talk to you as it was last time. i genuinely wish you well. i'm glad you're making another go at this. good luck with it. >> i appreciate it, thanks. >> newtown changed everything, but the nra doesn't get it, and
you were talking about debt and deficit and government spending 15, 20 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it in washington, but now they really are. here is a chance for you to take all you learned, what you learned on the way up, on the way down, in congress, in the governorship, and apply it to what is really the debate of our times. if you look, we're having a new fiscal crisis it seems every couple months. we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of...
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what the balance between spending cuts and revenue increases should be in terms of dealing with the deficit. that's been the battle that's waged since early 2011 and republicans grabbed control of the house. they have the house for two years and feels like more of a ceremonial second inaugural than usual. >> yeah. and i think he's going to have a very tough -- toure was right saying i have a limited idea of how much to get done in this term. lbj in 1965 had had the largest landslide in history, more democrats in congress than any other time in the 20th century except for roosevelt and told the people, we have got six months because i'm going to be asking democrats to make a lot of sacrifices that may hurt them back in their home states and willing to do that for six months and then start rebelling. he was absolutely right because if you think of the big things in the great society, voting rights, medicare, the other stuff, most of that was done during johnson's first six months and turned out to be prophetic and a fair warning. >> yeah, no. 1966 midterms, 46-seat landslide for republicans.
what the balance between spending cuts and revenue increases should be in terms of dealing with the deficit. that's been the battle that's waged since early 2011 and republicans grabbed control of the house. they have the house for two years and feels like more of a ceremonial second inaugural than usual. >> yeah. and i think he's going to have a very tough -- toure was right saying i have a limited idea of how much to get done in this term. lbj in 1965 had had the largest landslide in...
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number of people who say, well, he's got to get the fiscal house in order, he's got to deal with the deficit. why is that important? >> i think it's important to design a sound fiscal program that both contributes to job creation and recovery in the short term, i absolutely believe programs do that by creating confidence and creating fiscal room for a moderate stimulus. and also meets long term imperative for addressing what i believe is an unsustainable and dangerous fiscal trajectory. in order to put ourselves on a sound fiscal footing, we're going to have to have substantially more revenues and more revenues means higher taxes whether it's the tax rates or reduced deduction, one or the other, that clearly is going to be a cost absorbed by those who pay the taxes, there are going to have to be constraints on our programs. that's what you have to do if you're going to get on a sound fiscal path, the longer you wait, the deeper your whole gets the harder it is to retain confidence. >> it's time to redue the country's convoluted tax system. the u.s. tax code is now 73,000 pages long. paul o'n
number of people who say, well, he's got to get the fiscal house in order, he's got to deal with the deficit. why is that important? >> i think it's important to design a sound fiscal program that both contributes to job creation and recovery in the short term, i absolutely believe programs do that by creating confidence and creating fiscal room for a moderate stimulus. and also meets long term imperative for addressing what i believe is an unsustainable and dangerous fiscal trajectory....
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especially with issues like debt and deficit dealing with what ever happens on gun control, they have a big heavy docket already. there are a lot of reasons this could still stumble. >> on the issue of guns and gun violence, the story on -- available on line with the headline in -- we asked him, what will pass? guest: i wish i knew. i would hope we could close the gun show loophole. which could limit the size of magazines. i would hope that we would have background checks the same for everybody and actually have some teeth and took them. host: what would the senate passed? what will house republican support with a twist on guns? guest: let's begin with the process that he will hold a hearing. he will hold a hearing and try to see what consensus can develop out of there. he is critical to this. the lot would come through his committee. the speech he game at georgetown on wednesday. i came away from their unsure of how far he is willing to go. he said he would be willing to take a look at an assault weapons ban, which he voted for in 1994. he said he told an interesting story of high-ca
especially with issues like debt and deficit dealing with what ever happens on gun control, they have a big heavy docket already. there are a lot of reasons this could still stumble. >> on the issue of guns and gun violence, the story on -- available on line with the headline in -- we asked him, what will pass? guest: i wish i knew. i would hope we could close the gun show loophole. which could limit the size of magazines. i would hope that we would have background checks the same for...
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talking about his legacy, most important thing he could do is tax reform and deficit control. if he could put those two things together, that'd be bigger than health care. >> steve: you know what? if he were to work with the republicans talking reform-- >> i think that's a lock for next year. >> steve: well, he wants to do something about it. some republicans want to do something about it, remember last time with health care, the republicans had a bunch of ideas and the democrats shut them out completely. maybe this time bipartisan. >> brian: that's not the harry reid i know. >> alisyn: let's get to other stories in the headlines, late last noos night, two drones strikes, at least three of the bodies were burned beyond recognition. the death toll could rise in the hostage crisis at a gas plant in algeria. many were killed including one american. two americans are still missing and the crisis ended yesterday when the algerian army attacked the plant killing two militants. president obama said this is attack is another reminder of the threat posed by al-qaeda and other violent e
talking about his legacy, most important thing he could do is tax reform and deficit control. if he could put those two things together, that'd be bigger than health care. >> steve: you know what? if he were to work with the republicans talking reform-- >> i think that's a lock for next year. >> steve: well, he wants to do something about it. some republicans want to do something about it, remember last time with health care, the republicans had a bunch of ideas and the...